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evidence of the fact that criminals and mad men do pay attention to the gun laws. that man was not supposed to have access to guns yet he did. in response to your conversation you had with my friend jack kingston, we should not be complacent to go to schools to be assassinated ed but the fac we need to protect our children and guns in schools should be decided at the local level but the mad men and criminals, no amount of gun control and restricting access and tightening the gun laws will stop a criminal from doing what he intends to do but putting an armed guard in the school, local schools feel that's the thing to do, we need to protect our children and one way to do it now. i do strongly believe that decision should be made at the local level but since newtown happened, we need to look at gun control and treating the mentally ill and the influence of the entertainment industry. >> keith, the last word. you have a microphone on. we can hear you groaning. >> sorry. i think the nra argument seems to be gun control isn't perfect. won't stop all crime so let's not have any gun control but if
't stop until there's common sense gun poll laws at the federal and state level. >> there's an equation that goes in to this and talking about gun regulation as being a punlg factor in all of it, everyone from the left and right brought up whether there's other contributing factors. one senator was on this morning seeming willing to put all of these options on the table, but specifically, when it comes to talking beyond gun regulation. take a listen. >> we have to do everything we have. it will include looking at how many bullets do you need in a magazine in a semiautomatic weapon. and we need to talk about xbox 360 and wii and those games and how far down in this to children they're getting. we need to talk about movies and we need to talk about the rating systems. >> does she have a point, shannon? >> absolutely. we live in a very, very violent society. so the answer to that is not to increase the guns we all have. i think there's some distraction of the issue by the nra and they want us to look at other things and we should but that doesn't mean to take our focus off of the issue of
armed law enforcement officers who twice engaged the shooters at columbine. that didn't prevent 15 from being killed and 23 wounded. >> mark, you know, the nra, we all know here in this conversation. it's been so powerful for so many years, in another day and age, lawmakers and the public might have listened to what he said yesterday, but this is now. what is different here in terms of his call for arming schools? will even be listened to? >> richard, normally the pr 101 is a group that seems to be under siege and of course, the nra was attracting a lot of negative attention and you typically make a concession or two, even if it's a fig leaf, just to be able to strike the right tone and make sure you're not on the wrong side of public opinion and on the wrong side whof holds the higher ground. you were just interviewing a woman who was a survivor of gun violence before the break and right now, particularly after the tragedy that we saw in connecticut, those people were occupying the high ground in this debate and it is going to be interesting how wayne lapierre answers the type of quest
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